There was quite a lengthy discussion on Bond Proposition #4 - Storm Water Control for $2 million at the February 28, 2007 "informational" meeting. This is the largest bond proposal dollar-wise, and yet there was not one mention in the March 1, 2007
Observer Dispatch article.
Let me first show you what was given to us when we asked for information as to where the stormwater fixes would occur.
Stormwater Areas--As you can see, this is merely a list of streets where stormwater issues have probably been identified in the past. Doesn't say what they are going to do, when, or how much it will cost or even if they are going to do anything on these streets. At every informational meeting we have asked for more specific information as to what the plans are, a rough idea of costs associated with the "fixes", in other words "How do you plan on spending $2 million?" Each meeting, Roger Cleveland says he has the information and will make it available, but we haven't seen anything yet.
We happened to tape the February 28, 2007 informational meeting so that we could relay the information to you in case you were unable to attend.
Let me give you a transcript of the stormwater questions asked at the February 28, 2007 informational meeting. I will start by identifying who is talking:
Member - a member of the
Concerned Citizens for Open & Honest GovernmentHighway Superintendent – Roger Cleveland
Councilman Payne – Ward 1
Councilman Reynolds – Ward 3 (Village of New Hartford)
Transcript regarding $2 million Stormwater Bond:
Member - Do you think all stormwater problems would get fixed.
Highway Superintendent - “No, no, I do not.”
Member - “When do you see coming back for more money?”
Highway Superintendent - “I think we target some of the drainage basins that have been identified. I don’t think we are ever going to solve every private homeowners’ problems. Not in a million years because if we design this for a 100 year storm or two hundred year storm or 500 year storm, with the way things have been going we will probably get a 550 year storm.”
Member - So not everybody is going to be satisfied?
Highway Superintendent - “I don’t think so.”
Member - "Do you plan on bonding for more money in the future?"
Highway Superintendent - "If we need to I think we would come back to the public. I’m the Highway Superintendent, not the Town Board, but I think what we need to do is take a look at these large drainage basins that we have right now and try to incorporate individual homeowners’ fixes along the way, because sometimes those can be done relatively inexpensively, but are we going to satisfy every person in this town? Probably not."
Councilman Reynolds - “But I think this will go a long way to address the issues that have been identified through studies that we spent a lot of money on to procure these studies and have never been able to pull the trigger on them because we didn’t have the funding to do what they are suggesting is going to solve the issues."
Member - "Will we see some kind of a progress report with how much money has been spent so far, what it has been spent on, where it has been spent?"
Highway Superintendent - "I think that is an excellent idea."
Councilman Payne - “Cathy, Roger and I were speaking about that today and as we progress on these projects, our thought is to publicize them so that all town residents know that we have focused in a particular area, we think we have solved it, now we are moving..just so everyone knows what we are doing."
Member - "Are these monies going to be used to buy easements?"
Highway Superintendent - "Yes."
Member - "Are these easements going to be some kind of negotiations..or is it going to be here’s what we are offering, or are some people going to get more for their easements than other people?"
Highway Superintendent - "That is something we will have to work out with the town board and town attorney, but the easements are going to be negotiated."
Member - "Time frame to spend $2 million?"
Highway Superintendent - "I don’t know.—we will do it as quickly as we possibly can."
Now, let's look at some town board minutes. You can view the minutes of all town board minutes from 2002 to date by visiting our
website.
On September 20, 2007 at a regularly scheduled Town Board meeting, the following resolution was passed:
REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
September 20, 2006
Page 4
Legal Services Agreement – Stormwater Drainage Project - #HC8310.4
Upon the recommendation of the Highway Superintendent, Councilman Payne presented the following Resolution for adoption; seconded by Councilman Reynolds:
(RESOLUTION NO. 272 OF 2006)
RESOLVED that the New Hartford Town Board does hereby authorize and direct the Town Supervisor to enter into and to execute an Agreement For Legal Services for Stormwater Drainage Project - #HC8310.4 between the Town of New Hartford and the law firm of Paravati, Karl, Green & DeBella, 12 Steuben Park, Utica, New York at an hourly rate of One Hundred Fifty Dollars ($150)…
The Resolution was declared unanimously carried and duly ADOPTED.
We found that to be an interesting agreement between the town and Paravati, Karl, Green & DeBella for work at an hourly rate of $150 on the Stormwater Drainage Project that hasn’t even been approved by the voters yet. So we submitted a Freedom of Information request for the four (4) page
agreement.
Let’s take a look. The agreement is with the law firm of Paravati, Karl, Green & DeBella. Let’s introduce one of the players in that law firm. The "Green" in Paravati, Karl, Green & DeBella is none other than the New Hartford Town Attorney who is also the Chairman of the New Hartford Republican Committee. Whoa!
We were sure this must be a conflict of interest and so we did some searching on the internet and sure enough.
Legal Opinion 2000 - 22 from the Office of the State Comptroller. It looks like
if the agreement was in place prior to Mr. Green’s appointment as town attorney, it would be acceptable to continue the agreement until the end of the term as long as he disclosed “his interest in the contract publicly and in writing to the town board, and the disclosure must be included in the official record of the town board's proceedings (General Municipal Law §803[1])". However, Attorney Green was appointed as town attorney in January 2006 and this agreement was entered into on September 6, 2006 and unanimously approved by the Town Board on September 20, 2006. Therefore, the contract was drawn up and signed almost 9 months
after Attorney Green became the Town Attorney.
So, for further explanation, let's look at the same Opinion from the Office of the State Comptroller, but this time look at footnote 2 as quoted below:
“2. Although the powers and duties of town attorneys are not generally prescribed by statute, we have previously noted that town attorneys commonly possess one or more of the powers and duties that may give rise to a prohibited interest in a contract (see, e.g., 1989 Opns St Comp No. 89-65, p 143; 1981 Opns St Comp No. 81-102, p 101). We have also noted that because it is the existence of these powers and duties which gives rise to a prohibited contractual interest, recusal will not cure a prohibited interest in a contract (see, e.g., Opn No. 89-65, supra, 1988 Opns St. Comp No. 88-14, p 25).”
Everyone, please note that "recusal
will not cure a prohibited interest in a contract". Perhaps, Mr. Green should have done some research before he entered in this contract with the town. Looks like the Office of the State Comptroller is saying that this is a no-no!
There are other General Municipal Town Laws mentioned in the Opinion. You can read them all, if you choose, by putting the particular law in a search engine. All town laws are easily accessible on the internet.
Let’s take this one step further by reading some of the actual
agreement. Attorney Green's law firm will be paid $150 an hour for all the services outlined in numbers 1-11 of this agreement. Check it out! Looks like some people would profit from this Stormwater Bond, but it might not necessarily be people with stormwater problems.
Let me quote from the agreement on page 4 – second sentence in item number 10. “The Attorneys acknowledge that the formation of the subject Stormwater Project has already been achieved and bonding previously arranged."
Hmm! This agreement was drafted on September 6, 2006, unanimously signed by the Town Board on September 20, 2006 and the bond resolutions weren’t even voted on by the Town Board until the October 4, 2006 Town Board Meeting. Guess we sort of took them by surprise when we collected the needed signatures to force a vote. Just one more example of how they planned to just quietly push ahead with creating town debt without asking for any input from residents. The contract is even signed by Gerald J. Green on behalf of Paravati, Karl, Green & DeBella. Incredible!
Just as a side note, in the early 1990s, the Town of New Hartford bonded $2.4 million for stormwater--the town just finished spending that money in 2005, I believe. I started searching through Town Board Minutes and outlining some of the areas that we have previously addressed with that bond money as well as some member items and grants, but the list became to long and difficult to manage so I ask you, if you are interested in the money already spent, please put some of these street names in our
searchable town board minutes or just enter the word "stormwater" to get some idea of what has been done and yet we still have problems. Either this money is not being spent wisely or we need to look for outside help to correct the situation. This $2 million will make a total of $4.4 million dollars and we still have no guarantees that anything will be fixed. Some of the last stormwater bond monies even went to overtime for Highway workers to clean ditches. It is in the town board minutes! This time it looks like others will also share some of the cache. If you have stormwater problems, don't you want to make sure that your problem is "fixable" and will be "fixed" before you vote to spend $2 million?
There is still more to be told--we have done our homework...keep watching and reading!